Computing Supply

  • stuart.baird
    Participant

    Having discussed this with nearby colleagues I think know the answer but I have to ask…

    …is there any Computing supply teachers out there? Within the Falkirk area I can imagine that we could use one or two. Feel free to share or contact me.

    In terms of the bigger picture are there sufficient numbers of Computing teachers being trained?

    Angela Collett
    Participant

    Hi Stuart,

    I’m a computing probationer and I went to Strathclyde uni, there were 15 students started and only 6 of us qualified……..so I’d say no there are not sufficient teachers being trained.

    Glasgow uni has 15 students too but I don’t know how many qualified.

    Thanks,
    Ange

    stuart.baird
    Participant

    Thanks Angela, not the most encouraging news for the future.

    Gayle Alexander
    Participant

    We’re also looking for a temporary teacher at Queensferry High school, very little interest so far. 🙁

    https://www.myjobscotland.gov.uk/councils/city-edinburgh-council/jobs/temporary-teacher-computing-queensferry-community-high-school-36643

    Emma Maley
    Participant

    I was an NQT last year and have been lucky enough to have been kept on at my school temporarily. A lot of my friends are in the same situation. When I graduated there was only 7 of us from Glasgow University and I believe 8-10 from Strathclyde.

    I feel there aren’t enough university places to cope with the demand, however most of the jobs I have seen advertised have been temporary; short term; in remote places or are advertising for a dual qualified teacher in Computing and Business. I wouldn’t leave my current position to apply for any of these jobs as I would be no better off than I am now (I’m employed until June in my school).

    stuart.baird
    Participant
    David Rees
    Participant

    Glasgow Uni only has 6 Computing teachers on the PGDE this year (2015/16), of which I am one. There were places sufficient for 15, but for one reason or another, we only started with 7, and 1 has dropped out (may come back next year).

    If it is of any consolation, one of our six is based near Falkirk, and two more are within commuting distance. No solution to your immediate needs, but may help in future.

    stuart.baird
    Participant

    Thanks David, and good luck with your course.

    Marc McWhirter
    Participant

    I qualified in 2013 from Glasgow and there was only 5 at that time. Numbers aren’t good but with much better job prospects in industry it’s easy to understand why.

    Shona Watson
    Member

    Hi everyone, I thought I would add a message to the group. I just qualified from Glasgow uni in October after having to do a retrieval placement. There was 9 of us in our class (14/15). 7 of us passed in June, whilst 2 of us, including myself had to do the additional placement. Thankfully he passed too. As soon as I became registered with the GTCS I was very fortunate to have been offered supply work at St Mungo’s High School in Falkirk in November until the summer. What I have heard through the grapevine, there were a few positions going in Falkirk. St Mungo’s have just recruited the computing teacher from Grangemouth High School so I’m presuming they will be advertising soon too. Good luck to anyone who is looking!

    Darren Brown
    Participant

    Do we need to again have a system where teaching colleagues from other subjects can be given time/support/easy path to move across to Computing? I know schools in our region with Developing Scotland’s Young Workforce and HGIOS 4 pressure is about to come on to do proper Computing but their first excuse will be no teachers to fill jobs. We have seen different teachers in some schools want to take on Computing classes.

    David Rees
    Participant

    Retraining teachers across to Computing can be done; I understand it happened in Scotland a couple of decades ago, and New Zealand did something along those lines not too long ago (Bell, Andreae & Robins, 2008). Teaching the BGE should certainly be possible for such people, and given the opportunity to do further learning (day-release, Open University?) teaching up to Nat 5 and beyond should be possible too.

    As a beginning Computing teacher, of fairly mature years, it does worry me how few new Computing colleagues I will have. Without the teachers, how can a school offer Computing? Though the Universities do try, certainly the PGDE route into Computing teaching is not attracting enough applicants to fill the places which are funded and available.

    Another thought is to find a way of bringing people in from industry, though giving up a well-paid job to do a full-time PGDE is a big ask of someone considering a career change. Is it feasible to perhaps do the University training component of a PGDE part-time, in the evenings or at weekends, and only require full-time commitment once the school placements start? There may be people out there ready to make the jump to teaching, but the financial chasm of a PGDE year followed by a Probation year is perhaps too wide.

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